Date: September 7, 1997
Location: Whole Life Expo, San Francisco, California
Note: These are Thomas E. Billings' notes of Aajonus's talk and answers, not a full transcript. Thomas noted that he could not always keep up with the speaker.
Talk Notes
Aajonus began by briefly telling his story. He was born into a violent household, and his brother tortured him. He was a sickly child, with severe dyslexia. At age 10, he had peritonitis, misdiagnosed as appendicitis. At 16, he was diabetic, at 19 he had a stomach ulcer that was a tumor. The surgery scar from that became a keloid, or a tumor. The keloid became cancerous, and he had radiation therapy, and chemotherapy. He experienced severe side effects from the treatments.
He was in a hospice, when a person gave him raw carrot juice, and a book on how to reverse cancer with carrot juice. He left the hospice and tried the carrot juice - it reduced his dyslexia. He bought $110 of books on diet and health to read. He read the books while he smoked (he used to be a smoker). His health improved, and he switched to macrobiotic. The macro was OK; it stopped the cancer, but it made his diabetes and psoriasis worse. At that point, Aajonus claims that he had 6 incurable diseases.
He began to try raw foods - an 80% raw vegetarian diet. His raw foods tutor was anti-fat, but Aajonus reported that he had cravings for fat. He made raw ice cream, and he got better. He tried vegan but it didn't work for him.
Aajonus went on a 3 years long bicycle trip across the U.S. and Canada. Approximately 2.5 years into the trip, the cancer resurged again. He decided to fast himself to death, as he thought he was dying, and fasting would make it happen quicker. He was in a remote canyon in the Southwest U.S. A group of coyotes offered him a wild jackrabbit they had killed. He ate it and was repulsed, due to his vegetarian self-conditioning.
His first bite of raw, dead rabbit came back up. He psyched himself up to eat it, as he thought it was poison and would kill him. Instead of it killing him, he felt incredible after eating the raw meat. He started eating other animals, and felt better and better on the raw meat diet.
Aajonus recommends: don't drink water unless you are very thirsty; no fruit juices, only vegetable juices, and eat fat when you drink juices. Cooked meat contains toxins.
Aajonus claims that parasites are no problem. He says that he has been checked for worms and none found, despite the fact that he has no stomach, due to the cancer surgery years ago. Thus he has no hydrochloric acid to kill the parasites. He spoke of doing a 41 day fast (he advises against fasting, he says it's stupid), and eating a rotten salmon steak crawling with pinworms, but still no worms in him. Of over 3000 clients on the diet, only 1 person ever got worms.
Look at the tribes that eat rotten meat: Inuit eating caribou, whale meat that is rotten. The E. coli content should kill you, but it doesn't. Parasites feed on decay; parasites and bacteria are doing you a blessing.
Aajonus talked about Hulda Clark's theories, and said it was all nonsense. He then introduced a woman in the audience, who had blood and bone cancer (multiple myeloma), and who was sent home to die. After 3 months on the diet, her blood work was nearly normal! She is recovering and getting better. Of 241 terminal cancer patients, 232 have gone into remission or reversed. Of 1877 arthritis patients, there is an 85% cure (or significant improvement) rate. Of 44 heart occlusion patients, 95% have reversed the problem.
Q: What do you recommend to lifelong veggies?
A: If you are well as a veggie, stay on the diet. 4% or less of raw foods veggies do well on the diet. If you are satisfied on the diet, don't change.
Q: How do you get a diehard veggie to change?
A: Aajonus told the story of an individual with a mouth problem that he put on the diet. On the raw meat diet, his condition improved. However, the person got into a diehard veggie group, ate veggie again and his condition deteriorated. Ultimately, Aajonus gave a talk to the veggie group. The result: they are all on the raw meat diet now!
Q: What if you can't get organic meats?
A: Animals are fed hormones and antibiotics. These go first to the glands, then the bones. Cows are grazed until the last 6 months of their lives, when they are sent to a feedlot, where they receive hormones and antibiotics. Don't eat glands from non-organic animals. Muscle meats are OK if eaten raw.
Q: What about the Zone diet?
A: It is a great diet if raw. Don't cook your meat. You can eat raw unsalted butter with meat. Aajonus then said that he does not eat chicken, turkey, or pork unless organically produced.
Q: Your daily routine?
A: I'm like the instinctos; I eat what I am hungry for at the time. The only change is that, due to my diabetes history, I don't eat much fruit. Our bodies learned to live off sugar rather than fat. This makes the pancreas large, to handle all the sugar. If I eat fruit, I eat it with a lot of fat (avos, raw cheese, raw butter). Breakfast was green juice plus milk, and 3 raw eggs by themselves (fertile, organic).
Q: What about eating out?
A: Ask the restaurant manager for raw meat; sign a release form if necessary.
Q: What about water?
A: Water dries you up, whether taken internally or externally. Water is dehydrating and drying! Otherwise juice veggies or drink milk. If you are thirsty, you can eat raw butter and honey.
Your diet should be 80% raw fat if you are ill.
Q: What about algae or spirulina?
A: They don't do anything if you are on an all-raw diet.
Q: Have you had success with MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) and CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome)?
A: Yes. 1-2 years on the diet, complete recovery (40 cases).
Q: Is 100% raw a good idea?
A: For overactive people, he recommends some cooked starch with fat (butter or avos).
Q: What about food combining?
A: Strawberries+beef = gas. If it doesn't work, don't do it. There are no laws about food combining.
Q: What about MS (multiple sclerosis)?
A: Eat lots of raw beef and raw fish at the same time. 4 severe cases reversed.
Q: What about lactose intolerance?
A: Only 5% of those who are lactose intolerant on cooked milk have problems with raw dairy (??) Eat butter, cream instead.
Additional Responses After the Talk
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A raw food vegan I know, stayed after and asked Aajonus how to get started eating RAF. Aajonus suggested raw fish as the entry point.
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An emaciated woman spoke of how she was a former vegan, and was now constipated by meat. Aajonus told her she was just absorbing the nutrients in the meat.